Crystallizing Conversations: Ep 10: The Truth About Cleansing Crystals: Are Your Crystals Performing at Peak Potential?

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Iris:
Welcome beautiful souls to crystallizing conversations. We're so happy you're here

Jillian:
I am so excited for this episode. It's just Iris and I today. And generally if it's the two of us, we don't have a guest, then it's more of a crystal focused podcast versus a crystal supported podcast episode. And I am looking for it. This is again, this is like another question I get all the time. And I'm sure you do too, Iris. We are going to be focusing on cleansing crystals. there's kind of like a debate. I don't know if debate might be a little strong of a word, but like there's kind of like two, there's different viewpoints about cleansing crystals and how to properly cleanse crystals and whether

Iris:
and

Jillian:
even,

Iris:
how often.

Jillian:
and how often, what's the difference in cleansing and charging? Is it even needed? So this is one of those topics that's actually very important in the crystal community. And so we thought this might be a fun one to really.

Iris:
Yeah, and because it's just the two of us, it's a little less formal. I feel like it'll be a little more, uh, we might say things we shouldn't, but it's

Jillian:
Uh

Iris:
okay.

Jillian:
oh. It's also, can I, friends, can I just say we're recording this at like 7 30 in the morning, so we might be a little bit loopy. I mean we're both morning people, but I will be honest, I didn't sleep much last night, so let's see what happens. It may be a fun one.

Iris:
And then I just had a live, it was my first live sale in three months, which was so fun.

Jillian:
What did you have in your life? What did you feature?

Iris:
Uh, I always like, one of my favorite things is secrets because it's like just crystals I've been hoarding that are so special. So I'll just like bring them out from under the table. But my main things on the table, um, I had some Moroccan quartz, Moroccan orange calcite that were terminated, which are just so juicy. Um, what else did I have? Oh, some fluorescent mangano calcite that were bladed because mangano calcite

Jillian:
Ooh,

Iris:
from

Jillian:
from

Iris:
Peru.

Jillian:
Peru? Oh yes,

Iris:
Yeah.

Jillian:
good stuff,

Iris:
Oh,

Jillian:
good

Iris:
so

Jillian:
stuff.

Iris:
good. So it was a lot of fun. But yesterday I had to go out on my nature walk because I literally felt like I was floating, like my head was just like in the clouds because I'm touching crystals nonstop for three days. So my energy was just so yes, I probably will be a little loopy this morning.

Jillian:
Speaking of live sales, I actually have one coming up. We don't talk about what we do, I think, enough on this podcast, because it's the two of us and we don't have a guest. Both Iris and I do live sales, and if you've never participated in one before, they are a lot of fun. I used to do them weekly, but now I've got so many other projects going on that I now do them generally once a month. I think Iris does them when...

Iris:
sporadically when I feel

Jillian:
Yeah,

Iris:
inclined.

Jillian:
like when she's inspired, yeah, when she's inspired, when the universe is like, do it.

Iris:
Yeah.

Jillian:
And generally for my live sales, I like to have a theme. So we're recording this, of course, like a little bit ahead of time. So by the time this episode actually airs, I think I would have just done the live sale. But technically next week, but by the time you're listening yesterday, I did a live sale. It's really weird to speak in present,

Iris:
I know.

Jillian:
future and past at the same time. Um, so I am doing a live sale with a abundance in manifestation because of like the astrology that's going on right now, right? We have that new moon in Aries that like, what is it? What's the black moon, right? The second, the second Aries new moon. That's also an eclipse, um, for like starting projects and like doing shit, right? Like getting things off the ground. And then we're moving into Taurus season directly after like the day after and Taurus has a lot of like, maybe not quite the hustle that Capricorn does, but Taurus like, it's really financially minded. And so I thought like that manifestation abundance theme would be really fitting for this coming week, this week, that if you're listening now. But generally I do them on Tuesdays and Wednesdays in the afternoon evenings. And I... usually, I think you do this too, right? Like we post what's still available afterwards. So if you're listening to this and you're like, Ooh, I'm interested in those crystals, you can go onto either of our pages and check to see like what's in our, what's in our recap or in our stories.

Iris:
Yeah,

Jillian:
And you

Iris:
shoot

Jillian:
can still

Iris:
us a

Jillian:
claim,

Iris:
DM. Yeah.

Jillian:
yeah, shoot us a DM, comment, whatever you want to do. But yeah, we both were talking, we're like, we've never talked about live sales and maybe we should do that because that's actually like how we each started this Crystal Journey was we were, we were part of like the first wave of live sellers. So it's a lot of fun. There's, you know, it's kind of like the closest thing you can get to shopping in real life, because you can ask questions in real time, we talk about them in real time. We usually have multiples, you can like pick the one you like the most. It's a lot

Iris:
Yeah,

Jillian:
of fun.

Iris:
it's for me

Jillian:
So.

Iris:
too. I love it because it's getting together with like-minded people.

Jillian:
Mm-hmm.

Iris:
Like the again, just like when we say

Jillian:
All your

Iris:
the word

Jillian:
Crystal Nerd friends

Iris:
exactly

Jillian:
that you don't know you have yet,

Iris:
right.

Jillian:
but they're there just waiting to meet you.

Iris:
Yeah, it's so fun and uplifting because just like we say crystal cellars, like we don't like that term. That's how I feel about live sales for me. I'm like, I am offering crystals, but just come hang out. Like even if you're not buying,

Jillian:
Yeah.

Iris:
you get to absorb the good energy of the crystals. They're fun to look at. And then you get

Jillian:
You

Iris:
to

Jillian:
get

Iris:
hang

Jillian:
to

Iris:
out with

Jillian:
learn.

Iris:
really cool, fun people that are so

Jillian:
Yes,

Iris:
uplifting. So,

Jillian:
exactly. So

Iris:
yeah.

Jillian:
if you haven't participated one before, I highly, I highly recommend it for either of us. Um, they're yeah, they're a lot of fun.

Iris:
Yeah. And then before we get started, I wanted, um, Jillian doesn't know this. I like to do like little things that Jillian doesn't know. And then she's like surprised on camera, which is so funny because that's not like me.

Jillian:
What

Iris:
I'm

Jillian:
are you

Iris:
not

Jillian:
doing?

Iris:
a surprise person, but for, I'm like, Jillian, guess what? I

Jillian:
Okay,

Iris:
don't know why.

Jillian:
I'll be honest, I freaking love surprises,

Iris:
Oh, Murphy, that's a lie.

Jillian:
but

Iris:
But...

Jillian:
I am actually very difficult to surprise because I notice a lot of details. So like, I've never been able to have like a surprise, but I think like once I had a friend who was like working with another friend that I didn't know, and they planned one together, but I had something I knew something was going on, but I didn't know anyways, but I always figure it out. So I'm actually I love being delightfully surprised.

Iris:
Yeah, it's always something that has to do with the podcast. It's like, Julia, did you know? Because she's not on Apple. So like if I see a new review, then I'll like like to little plug that in. But I look this morning on our stats on where everyone's listening in from in the past 30 days, because obviously when we first started, there's this big oomph. And then, but anyway, in the past 30 days, the majority of our listeners are here in the States. But second largest, which was a great number, were Canadians. So hi, sweet, fun, happy-go-lucky Canadians.

Jillian:
Hello.

Iris:
After Canada, we have Australia,

Jillian:
Okay.

Iris:
so across the world,

Jillian:
Aw.

Iris:
the UK, Mexico, Norway, Singapore.

Jillian:
Norway?

Iris:
Yeah,

Jillian:
Cool!

Iris:
Norway, Singapore, and Sweden. Sweden's still listening.

Jillian:
Aww. Yay!

Iris:
Yay.

Jillian:
Thanks, thank

Iris:
So

Jillian:
you,

Iris:
thanks

Jillian:
Sweden.

Iris:
everybody. And yeah, just so exciting for us to be able to know that people from all over the world are enjoying this. Like that is just so amazing to me and so heartwarming. And whatever country you're in, tell your friends. We wanna spread the good news. So

Jillian:
Yeah,

Iris:
thanks

Jillian:
aww.

Iris:
for tuning in from all over the world. We appreciate you guys.

Jillian:
Thank you. Next up, the moon.

Iris:
Yeah, Mars, no. Um, so Jillian, I'm curious. What crystal are you working with right now?

Jillian:
Oh gosh. So I am actually, I'm like, where is it? Oh, it's not here because I've been working in a different room today. So I'm currently in my office, but sometimes you just need a little change of pace. So I've actually been doing a lot of work in the dining room, but I have been doing a lot of work. I feel like I'm like, here's this giant announcement. So my book sold and so...

Iris:
That's amazing.

Jillian:
Yeah, it's been kind of like languishing for a little bit since this past summer and then I was contacted and the editor was like, by the way your book sold, can you finish it within a couple months? And I was like, oh god, that's very, very soon when typically authors have like six months to write it. So I've been doing a lot, a lot. Oh my gosh, so much writing. So I've been hard at work with my Venatianite. Vanadonite is, which I don't have with me, I'm like bad show and tell, Vanadonite it's a really beautiful like crystalline red, gorgeous crystal from Morocco. I know you were saying you're featuring some, some Moroccan crystals in your live sale. And Vanadonite is a sacral chakra stone. So it's really, really fantastic for like doing and especially creative projects. And especially creative projects that need to be finished. It really helps give you that sustaining energy to like, do it, like to start it, to do it and to finish it. I know sometimes myself included, it's like, it peters out your energy, right? And so it kind of lends that fearlessness to just dive in and do, but also again, gives you that energy to complete the project, which as a Gemini, I get distracted a lot. So. So yeah, I've got my Venata night in the dining room next to all of my notes and so yeah,

Iris:
And Vanatah

Jillian:
I've been working

Iris:
Knight's

Jillian:
with

Iris:
like such a vibrant, cause it's like a red, but it's like an orangey red.

Jillian:
Yes, and

Iris:
And.

Jillian:
sometimes you get the ones that have the druzy all over the

Iris:
Yeah,

Jillian:
dolomite and it's, oh, chef's kiss.

Iris:
so beautiful. And yeah, so the fact that it's very like oomph, like that fiery energy, light a fire under your butt and write that book. No.

Jillian:
I know, I know. Also, I just love saying Vanatta Night. It makes me think

Iris:
Oh

Jillian:
of that

Iris:
my

Jillian:
Muppets

Iris:
gosh.

Jillian:
song, the

Iris:
Yes,

Jillian:
Vanatta

Iris:
I was

Jillian:
Night.

Iris:
just

Jillian:
Do

Iris:
gonna

Jillian:
do

Iris:
ask you

Jillian:
do

Iris:
that.

Jillian:
do do.

Iris:
I'm like,

Jillian:
Vanatta Night. Do do

Iris:
how do

Jillian:
do

Iris:
you not

Jillian:
do.

Iris:
get that song in your head while you're trying

Jillian:
Vanatta

Iris:
to write?

Jillian:
Night. Do do do do do. Do do do do

Iris:
Love

Jillian:
do. Do

Iris:
it.

Jillian:
do do do do do. And now, thanks, you know, you're welcome everyone

Iris:
Continuing

Jillian:
will now have

Iris:
on,

Jillian:
that

Iris:
now

Jillian:
song

Iris:
everyone.

Jillian:
in

Iris:
Yep.

Jillian:
your head. You're welcome. What are you working with, Iris?

Iris:
You know, it's funny. So when I first got into offering crystals, I ended up getting a moldavite. I bought a ring from

Jillian:
Oh.

Iris:
a local crystal shop, and it gave me a headache. And I never wore the ring, and I did not like moldavite.

Jillian:
Yes, that can happen.

Iris:
Yes. And then years later, I saw a moldavite skull for sale for an exorbitant

Jillian:
Oh,

Iris:
amount.

Jillian:
I've seen you share those in

Iris:
And

Jillian:
your stories.

Iris:
I don't, this skull actually has an enclosed air bubble in the moldavite. It's like, yeah, it's insane. And at the time I still wasn't, I hadn't been drawn to moldavite. And I remember showing Rob, I'm like, I am so, like I would stay up in the middle of the night just like looking at photos of it. But I'm like, I'm never gonna buy this, it's so expensive. But I showed Rob and he's like, buy it, you deserve it. And I'm like, don't, you're supposed to tell me the opposite. So I bought it and then I became addicted to moldavite for a while and then it went on my shelf We have a ton of it haven't touched it and recently I'm like Give me all the moldavite. I need it all so that's what I've been. I'm wearing a moldavite necklace right now Which

Jillian:
Oof.

Iris:
actually the chain goes through the moldavite. It's like a straw. It's

Jillian:
Oh,

Iris:
like naturally formed

Jillian:
wow.

Iris:
This is my moldavite, like natural worry stone. And I printed up something just for those of you who, if you're not familiar, Moldavite is associated with the third eye or heart chakras. It enhances inner journeys, channeling, dream work, cosmic consciousness, and awareness of interdimensional or extraterrestrial energies, which I love, increasing our sensitivity to guidance, intuition, and telepathy, and the ability to understand messages sent from higher realms. Placed on the heart, Moldavite uncovers the reasons and purpose for why we are here and eases the homesickness for those of us whose origin is not on Earth. So if you listen to our last episode about starseeds, I feel like this one's really that sentence in itself, the homesickness for those of us whose origin is not Earth. But do you know where I got this lovely information, Jillian?

Jillian:
Where?

Iris:
SageCrystals.com Shameless

Jillian:
Thanks!

Iris:
plug.

Jillian:
I was like, this sounds really familiar.

Iris:
So Jillian has an encyclopedia on her website of like all crystals. So go to her website when you need like the stone formation or stone, sorry, the stone itself description.

Jillian:
Yes, I go to

Iris:
And

Jillian:
Iris's

Iris:
then

Jillian:
if you're curious about the formation of it.

Iris:
exactly.

Jillian:
Yes.

Iris:
So between

Jillian:
Yeah.

Iris:
our two sites, you guys are covered.

Jillian:
Yeah, I feel like this needs to be a future episode where we do like controversial crystals. Um, yeah, because Moldavite is, because technically it's not even a crystal. It's a tectite, right? So it's like space meteor fusion glass,

Iris:
Mm-hmm.

Jillian:
for lack of a

Iris:
Right?

Jillian:
better like definition. But this is another thing people ask me, especially when I'm in my store, people will come in and they're like, do you have moldivite? Is it true what they say that it makes you go crazy? And it's like, no, absolutely not. But what I will say is that if you have moldivite and you've had a negative reaction to it, just do a little bit at a time. Don't just get a moldivite and wear it all day long. And it's the first time you've ever worked with it. Start small.

Iris:
Get

Jillian:
Like

Iris:
a little

Jillian:
a

Iris:
teeny-tiny,

Jillian:
few,

Iris:
like,

Jillian:
yeah,

Iris:
moldavite

Jillian:
like a,

Iris:
chip to start.

Jillian:
right. Or if it's a bigger piece, that's totally fine. But just like hold in your hands for five minutes. Like talk to it. Introduce yourself. Do a little bit at a time. Then meditate with it. Like go like graduate a little, yes, yes. Move gradually. And what I'll also say is that it really can give you, I mean, you're talking about having that floaty feeling at the beginning. It's because you're surrounding yourself by moldavite right

Iris:
Yeah.

Jillian:
now.

Iris:
True.

Jillian:
It is very an out-of-body crystal. Again, crystal, crystal used loosely. And so pairing it with something that's really grounding, like black tourmaline or petrified wood, or actually what I really love to pair it with is shaman stone, like a shaman stone set, although one will work perfectly, but just hematite, like something that's really, really grounding to keep you anchored while you're using it and kind of creating that tether is gonna be really. beneficial and make it a little bit less crazy feeling. So, but it is a very expansive Tactites as all the Tactites are. So, but I love that you're using it. So you've been working with your skull again. That's nice.

Iris:
Yeah, pretty much all my moldavite I've been working with again. So it's fun to take it, take it off the shelf and

Jillian:
Mm-hmm.

Iris:
made a grid with

Jillian:
I

Iris:
it

Jillian:
actually

Iris:
and stuff

Jillian:
don't

Iris:
the other

Jillian:
have

Iris:
day.

Jillian:
a personal moldivite.

Iris:
Really? I didn't, I

Jillian:
Yeah,

Iris:
mean, I didn't have one for a while just because...

Jillian:
it's too intense for me. I think I'm too, and not that I've like, I remember when I like read the, you know, when I first was like learning and I was like, oh, this is like very much like a star seed stone. And I remember this little part of me, it was like, oh, does that mean I'm not a star seed? And like, that's not true. But I definitely, like I've done like past life regression. I've actually like seen lives elsewhere, but I've been on... this planet for so long, it's almost, it's just too buzzy for me. So unless I'm like really pairing it with Shaman Stone, it's just too much for me right now.

Iris:
And that's okay.

Jillian:
And that's

Iris:
That's

Jillian:
okay.

Iris:
fine. That's okay. But

Jillian:
Yeah.

Iris:
certain crystals that I'm like not into either. And it's just, you know, you go with what you feel. So, all right, we can get into the episode now. We just wanted

Jillian:
Yeah,

Iris:
to have a little fun beginning chit

Jillian:
we

Iris:
chatting.

Jillian:
warned you, we warned you, we're loopy today.

Iris:
Yeah.

Jillian:
So, alright, let me cross this up. So we have welcomed you and we have introduced ourselves. Have we? I'm Jillian from Sage Crystals. Hey guys.

Iris:
Oh yeah, and I'm Iris from Iris Unique. We're on go to Instagram, we're on Instagram or our websites.

Jillian:
Yes.

Iris:
Either or.

Jillian:
I have my little like thing that I check off and this is what keeps me sane. So okay, so now we're moving on to the actual topic, which is cleansing crystals. To cleanse or not to cleanse? And we are, at least in this beginning part, we're going to be focusing mainly when we say cleansing, we mean energetic cleansing. Although we later on in this episode, we'll be talking about like physically cleaning our stones. But for now, when we're saying cleaning or cleansing, we mean energetically. Yes, it's important. So there really is this, I don't even know if it's like two sides, but people have very strong opinions about cleansing crystals. I mean, the amount of infographics, if you like, you know, hashtag crystals, the amount of infographics on Instagram alone about how to cleanse your crystals is, I mean, in the millions. And everyone has different opinions, right? Everyone is like, you need to cleanse, like every full moon, you put your crystals out and you cleanse those.

Iris:
You put them in a wheelbarrow and carry them all out into the

Jillian:
care.

Iris:
moonlight.

Jillian:
Right? Or like once a month, you need to go outside and like put them in the hole in the dirt and then cover it up and then undo like the next day come and dig them up

Iris:
Or

Jillian:
again and

Iris:
fill up your bathtub with salt and put them all in the

Jillian:
Oh

Iris:
salt

Jillian:
my God, or put all your crystals in the water. And then people are confused while they're broken or have dissolved the next day. So Iris, I first want to hear your opinion because I think we've talked about this a little bit before and I feel like we're not on opposite sides but we have different,

Iris:
Differing.

Jillian:
differing,

Iris:
Yeah,

Jillian:
we're like a Venn diagram

Iris:
different

Jillian:
of opinions

Iris:
perspectives,

Jillian:
on this which

Iris:
yeah.

Jillian:
I

Iris:
Yeah.

Jillian:
think is, which is great. So again, if as you're listening, what feels right to you, amazing. Don't take like our um what we believe to be like always fact right i mean granted there is fact in terms of like mo's hardness and what you shouldn't do uh because you don't want your crystals to break but these are i would say like more than opinions but like again always go with your intuition always yes so iris well how do you feel about it

Iris:
I...

Jillian:
Do you wheel out all of your crystals every month?

Iris:
Oh,

Jillian:
I mean, I know you can't.

Iris:
I honestly don't think I've ever energetically cleansed my crystals by moonlight. As a crystal cellar, that probably sounds really bad.

Jillian:
No, I don't

Iris:
But

Jillian:
think so.

Iris:
no, I've honestly never. Well, first of all, thousands. I have literally,

Jillian:
I can see.

Iris:
I mean, it

Jillian:
Yeah.

Iris:
would take me out and I have back pain, y'all. Like, I can't be carrying these heavy crystals in the moonlight. So no, I've never done that, but I do incense smoke cleansing, which stay tuned, you guys, for the summer episode in August. We have, we don't always record super early, but we do have one episode where we'll be talking about smoke cleansing. Um, but I personally use incense and yes, I do cleanse my crystals. I cleanse, um, all the crystals that I offer before every live sale. Just because my viewpoint is they end up. And I feel like you, you'll notice this too. And you, a lot of you probably have of you almost feel the vibe of the person that you purchased the crystals from. You know, you go into, especially at a gem show, you kind of feel with your intuition and you can feel a person's, just like you can feel a person's vibe. I feel like the same as with a crystal and it's not the crystal, it's they've kind of absorbed the energy of who they're around. So I personally, any crystals that go home, I energetically cleanse, even though I feel like I'm a positive person, nobody's perfect. And it's like, let's just, just in case, you know, so I'll always... cleanse crystals before they go on to you guys. And then personally, periodically, when I'm doing the live cells, then I'll just go through and do the incense with my personal crystals too. Cause it's like, well, well, I'm at it. Let's just, just in case, you know?

Jillian:
Yeah.

Iris:
So that's how I feel about it, but I definitely don't feel like it's a thing that I have like a ritual of every month or every full moon. It's more just how, again, how I'm feeling. energetically enough I feel they need it or if it's been a long time like crystals that I've had for a while that have been sitting waiting to be adopted in the website. I'll just go through and cleanse them all and give them a little love and whatnot.

Jillian:
Mm-hmm.

Iris:
How about you?

Jillian:
Yeah, you know, I am I think because I mean, I feel like I am very intuitive person, but I also am very like, scientific about about many things. Like, I really want to understand the science before I'm like, All right, I'll go for that. I have a lot of questions. I have a lot of doubts. If you know human design, I literally, my head center is undefined, but I have all of the gates defined and two of them are in my incarnation cross. So like asking questions and figuring things out and like doubting things is literally part of like my personality definition. I know we're going to have a future episode on human design. I'm very excited for it. So for me, I... I personally am of the belief that crystals do not need to be cleansed nearly as often as people make out that they should be cleansed. And the reason for that is if you hearken back to our second episode in Crystals 101, which if you haven't listened to is a lot of sciencey fun, and it actually is pretty entertaining for as much information as we're presenting in that episode. But Crystals are way more stable than we are, right? That's actually how crystal healing works. As crystals, because they have a either single or very simple, if they're a combo of different minerals, molecular structure, they have one or very few molecular dominant oscillary rates. So while... you and I, every single one of our cells is vibrating at a different rate, right? That can create a lot of disorder. Crystals don't have that. They literally are one, or if they're a combo of minerals, they're like a few, and that's it. So they're really, really stable. So, you know, they don't get affected the way that we do. Like, someone says something not nice to me and like, I'm done for the week. Like, that's it. I got knocked off. Right? And, and, you know, that's not always the case as I, as I'm getting older and I'm getting more self-aware, you know, maybe that'll last, you know, 10 minutes, maybe an hour. And then I'm like, all right, I'm back to my own right again. Right? We, we learn how to somatically reset ourselves. And crystals don't really need that. Like if you walk by and you're like kind of annoyed. right, or mad, like the crystal necessarily isn't necessarily going to absorb that because it's doing its job, whatever that might be. So I think crystals affect us much more than we can affect crystals unless we are using our intention, right? Once we use our intention, that like all bets are off. So because they're so stable, I don't think crystals really need to be cleansed. It's not like every month we need to truck them out and cleanse them. So that's where I stand on it. But that being said, I think there are a lot of situations in which it is appropriate to cleanse crystals. And I think what you brought up Iris is absolutely, absolutely perfect, right? If it's the first time that you're getting a crystal, I think that's the perfect time to cleanse it because you don't really know where it's been. And I will say, you know, and I'll talk about this a little bit later when we talk about different all of our stones, at least, I mean, all the ones that I sell, I reiki before they leave. So all, and I periodically go out into the warehouse and I reiki literally every single crystal. So I would say like, if you're getting crystals from me, you don't necessarily need to cleanse them because they've literally been cleansed like on their way out to you. But if you feel like I'm going to, I want to cleanse this, then like, great. But generally I would say when you're getting a new crystal. that is the perfect time to cleanse them because you're starting fresh, right? I would also say if you are about to set a new intention for your crystal, whether it's new or whether maybe you were using it for a particular purpose. Like let's say I was using, I bought a bunch of tumbles here. I was using a bunch of lapis tumbles for a crystal grid. My crystal grid is done. I have thanked the crystals. I have deconstructed the crystal grid. I've released it right. And now it's like a few weeks later, and I wanna use my lapis tumbles for something else. I think that is a perfect time to cleanse as well, right? Cause we're resetting. We were working in tandem with the stones and they had a specific purpose. And so now we're gonna just like reset them before we recharge or set our intention, right? So I think that's another time that you could cleanse. We're just resetting. It's not like they're dirty, right? They just need to be. reset. I would also say another time that is appropriate is if your crystals are around, let's say a very large unaligned energetic output or like outburst, right? So like generally they're more stable, but if you and your partner have like a giant knockdown drag out fight and maybe there's some like cruelty in there, I don't know, right? humans or humans, that might be a time when you would cleanse the crystals in your space because they, you know, we are very powerful beings and we are projecting that energy out. And so if it is energy that is, you know, destructive or upsetting or angry, all of those are our lower vibrations, it's lower density. And maybe the crystals got a little bit smudged, you know, a little bit, a little bit like a little bit shadowed, right? Because they do hold our energy. So I think if it's a really big energy output or outburst, I think outburst is really the word, outburst, I think that that might be a time to cleanse, right? Because you've really been, you've exposed them to maybe something that's not great. So again,

Iris:
And I would say too,

Jillian:
we're just resetting.

Iris:
if say you're in a work environment where you're like, you're the positive one, but everyone you're surrounded with is like negative Nancy, always complaining, always gossiping. And let's say you have your crystals there for your support, but they're constantly surrounded by that negative energy. Like over time, I would say. Definitely cleanse those crystals because over time, especially maybe not like one or two little instances, but I think like over time, they're eventually gonna get a little bit of that energy absorbed.

Jillian:
Yeah,

Iris:
So you're gonna wanna.

Jillian:
a little smudged with some negative energy.

Iris:
Yeah.

Jillian:
And that makes total sense too. So that's where you really want to use your intention. And if you are someone who really prefers to have a ritualistic thing, then that's when you'd be like, all right, on the moon, whether it's the new moon or the full moon, whatever it is, I'm going to do, I'm going to re-cleanse it. Full moon is usually great because it's all about release. So aligning it with that, I think is one of the reasons why people pull out their crystals and wheelbarrows. Um, but yeah, that, that like slow, slow tarnishment, shall we say of energy is another great reason to cleanse them. But again, it doesn't need to be like clockwork unless that feels appropriate to you. It doesn't need to be like every single day. It doesn't necessarily need to be every single month. It's just, if you start to feel like, okay, maybe this could, like, maybe we could do a little bit of, of dusting energetically here, then that's, you know, That makes total sense. I had a customer who came in and I was like, to each their own, but also I was kind of mad. So she came in and she had told me she'd been in another crystal store on the East Coast and that as soon as she was finished with a certain intention, she had to like bury the, like she couldn't reuse the crystal. It was like crystals were one time use. And I remember thinking like, why don't you just? reset it. Like, I don't understand.

Iris:
Yeah, wow. Can

Jillian:
And

Iris:
you imagine how

Jillian:
I

Iris:
expensive

Jillian:
asked.

Iris:
that would get?

Jillian:
Well, and I think that's

Iris:
I used

Jillian:
the

Iris:
my

Jillian:
thing.

Iris:
crystal once and now

Jillian:
But

Iris:
yeah.

Jillian:
I think that's the thing is if she does that, then she has to go back and buy more from, you know, because it was, it was a crystal, it was someone who worked in a crystal store who told her this. And I remember

Iris:
Oh

Jillian:
being

Iris:
my

Jillian:
really

Iris:
goodness.

Jillian:
like mad on behalf of her.

Iris:
Oh yeah. How deceitful. Oh my goodness.

Jillian:
I know. But also

Iris:
Which is

Jillian:
like

Iris:
why you should cleanse the crystals from that person.

Jillian:
Yeah,

Iris:
My energy.

Jillian:
right? Yeah.

Iris:
I would

Jillian:
Anyways.

Iris:
also say too, sometimes if you do, if you are very intuitive or you just feel really easily and you're an empath, I personally notice when crystals feel dull,

Jillian:
Mmm.

Iris:
which I think might go along more with the

Jillian:
Dull

Iris:
charging

Jillian:
is a

Iris:
aspect.

Jillian:
great, yeah, dull is

Iris:
But

Jillian:
a great term. I think that's better than like tarnished.

Iris:
yeah,

Jillian:
I

Iris:
I

Jillian:
like

Iris:
would

Jillian:
dull,

Iris:
say if they

Jillian:
I like

Iris:
feel

Jillian:
dull.

Iris:
dull, cleanse it. Like if it doesn't feel like it has that vibrant energy of when you first got it and you've had it for years or you've had it for months, cleanse it. But I think when we become so overly like, oh my gosh, I need to cleanse my crystals and yet don't stress about it, it's okay. And usually as long as you get your crystals, cleanse them when you first get them if they're not from Jillian and I. So. Just kidding. But yeah, just cleanse it when you first get it and then you're probably good for a while. I would say you're probably good for a good while. I would probably say I cleanse my personal ones mainly because I'm already cleansing the live sale ones or the ones that are from my website for people. And then I'm like, well, since I'm doing it, I have my little incense, there's plenty of incense left. Might as well do all mine, but my personal ones I very rarely do. So you're good.

Jillian:
Yeah, I generally, like I said, I generally, I think cleanse my crystals. I would say when I'm pulling them out, like if they don't, you know, if they feel dull, yeah, that's the good word. If they feel a little dull, then it's like, all right, let's do a little cleansing. It makes me, it reminds me of my dog, right? When I bathe my dog and afterwards she has the zoomies.

Iris:
Mm-hmm.

Jillian:
It's like, all right, let's

Iris:
Ha

Jillian:
do

Iris:
ha

Jillian:
this.

Iris:
ha.

Jillian:
Let's make this crystal grid. Let's set this intention. Let's work together. They get excited.

Iris:
It gives

Jillian:
Just

Iris:
the

Jillian:
imagining

Iris:
crystal

Jillian:
my

Iris:
zoomies.

Jillian:
dog with the

Iris:
I

Jillian:
zoomies, yeah.

Iris:
love that. All right.

Jillian:
Okay, so

Iris:
We

Jillian:
we've

Iris:
went

Jillian:
talked

Iris:
over

Jillian:
a bit

Iris:
that.

Jillian:
a little about our opinions. Yeah, so

Iris:
Yeah.

Jillian:
ways to cleanse. And there is a difference between cleansing and charging, which we'll get to after this, but because I know that's kind of like another confusion sometimes, but ways to specifically cleanse. We've already mentioned a couple, right? You can smoke cleanse. Smoke cleanse you can do through incense, like, Like Iris has mentioned, I literally am showing a tail here. Incense,

Iris:
Ooh,

Jillian:
here

Iris:
nachampa.

Jillian:
we are.

Iris:
Ooh, I haven't had nachampa in a while.

Jillian:
I know, I had like a habit next to me, it smells so good.

Iris:
My

Jillian:
So

Iris:
favorite

Jillian:
you could do

Iris:
is

Jillian:
that.

Iris:
Moldavite Incense.

Jillian:
Ooh,

Iris:
Of course,

Jillian:
ooh,

Iris:
right? Of

Jillian:
yeah.

Iris:
course. Yeah.

Jillian:
Do they grind up the Maldivite? Like how did they do that?

Iris:
So yeah, I guess it's moldavite dust, like because it's, I get most of my

Jillian:
Oh,

Iris:
moldavite.

Jillian:
from the carving and... Oh.

Iris:
Yeah, from the carving and then like, you know, just like with other crystals, if they're like in a bag and tumbled, like little chips fall off.

Jillian:
Sorry,

Iris:
Now I'm like, hmm.

Jillian:
I don't want to like... I'm just saying

Iris:
I've

Jillian:
it's

Iris:
been fine so far,

Jillian:
it's

Iris:
but...

Jillian:
silica. It's like breathing against dust is not...

Iris:
Well, I know, well, it's an

Jillian:
Another

Iris:
oil.

Jillian:
question.

Iris:
I need to go into it more too, because I know they say it's like an oil. So maybe the

Jillian:
Oh,

Iris:
oil

Jillian:
maybe they,

Iris:
itself,

Jillian:
the dust

Iris:
and

Jillian:
is

Iris:
then

Jillian:
infused

Iris:
they get the

Jillian:
with us.

Iris:
oil.

Jillian:
Yes.

Iris:
Yeah, that's probably actually what

Jillian:
Okay,

Iris:
it is.

Jillian:
that feels safer.

Iris:
Yeah. I don't think it's actual chunks.

Jillian:
Don't grind up

Iris:
Yeah,

Jillian:
and

Iris:
please

Jillian:
breathe

Iris:
don't.

Jillian:
in

Iris:
No,

Jillian:
anything,

Iris:
don't do

Jillian:
please

Iris:
that with

Jillian:
friends.

Iris:
any. Yeah, please don't. No.

Jillian:
For smoke cleansing, you can also use whatever plant feels sacred to you or is connected to your heritage, right? So I've got like some Palo Santo here. I also have some like beautifully etched Palo Santo from Fractalista.

Iris:
Ooh.

Jillian:
If you don't

Iris:
Yeah.

Jillian:
follow her, you should.

Iris:
Hey girlfriend.

Jillian:
Smells so good,

Iris:
Yeah.

Jillian:
I know. She's on Instagram, but you can.

Iris:
She's so

Jillian:
She does

Iris:
sweet.

Jillian:
some

Iris:
She lives

Jillian:
amazing,

Iris:
here by me, actually.

Jillian:
I know.

Iris:
I saw her at Home Depot the other day. Or not the other day, that was

Jillian:
I

Iris:
like

Jillian:
carry

Iris:
a year

Jillian:
a

Iris:
ago.

Jillian:
lot of her stuff in my store. So anyways, we've got, we've got extra Protestanto, for instance, if you want to like imbue it with sacred geometry or even more meaning, right? You can use Sage or, you know, just make sure it's, it's well-sourced and giving back to the indigenous communities. You can also utilize. whatever plant really resonates with your heritage, right? Like some cultures really use rosemary for clearing. So it really kind of depends on what feels right for you. But whatever produces smoke that historically or metaphysically that smoke is used for cleansing can be used to also cleanse crystals, not just your space or your own energy, but crystals themselves. So smoke cleansing is really popular. One of the ways that a lot of people know about cleansing is either earth cleansing or salt cleansing. The concept is kind of the same. For earth cleansing, either you can take a bowl filled with dirt and put your crystals in it, or if you've got a spot outside, you could dig a hole and put your crystals in it. And it's really allowing it to reconnect with its roots, so to speak. And earthing it right in the same way that like us walking barefoot can really reconnect with those ley lines. Our crystals do the same they literally grow underground they are earth elemental no matter if they're associated with any other element and that's another really um beautiful way to to cleanse your stones allowing all that density to go back to the ley lines to be recycled and to kind of start start fresh. You know, it depends, I think, on what your intuition says. There are different opinions. There's some people who think 24 hours is kind of like a good standard. I've heard like some people will leave them for a month. I don't think that's necessary, but again, if you feel that's right, go for it. But I would say like 24 hours is probably good. Yeah. So earth cleansing, and again, you can take some earth and put it in a bowl so you don't actually have to go outside and dig. Salt cleansing works kind of the same way, right? Salt has always been considered purifying in every single culture. And generally for that one, it's usually in a bowl, right? You have fillable with salts, you put your crystals in it or put your crystals on it and the salt innately will purify, it'll pull away. whatever density or whatever tarnishment or dullness there might be energetically and allow your crystals to be purified. So salt cleansing. Another one that's really popular is water cleansing. We will talk about this in a moment because not all crystals can be water cleansed. But water cleansing, same thing, you can put them in a bowl of water if it is a water safe And again, water ritualistically has always been considered a purification element. So that is another one. We're just harking back to, I mean, thousands and thousands and thousands of years of ritual and tradition here. So water cleansing is another great way to ritually cleanse your stones. Um, any, any you want to bring up that you like to use besides incense?

Iris:
Besides incense, I use selenite. I have a

Jillian:
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Iris:
big, a large selenite brick essentially that I'll just

Jillian:
Ooh,

Iris:
put crystals on

Jillian:
I'm like

Iris:
and let

Jillian:
sexy.

Iris:
them sit there. Yeah,

Jillian:
Amazing.

Iris:
right.

Jillian:
If you are new and you don't know what selenite looks like, so this is one form of selenite. So technically, this is gypsum from Morocco. A lot of Moroccan stuff today. So selenite does come in a variety of forms. They're all in the gypsum family. This is colloquially known as selenite, although what I'm holding technically is not selenite. It is gypsum. I actually, wait, I have some selenite. Hold on one second.

Iris:
Hehehehe

Jillian:
I have some beautiful golden selenite. This is from Utah.

Iris:
Ohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohoho

Jillian:
So this is like actually geologically selenite with those like beautiful insane blades. Right? So I can comment a lot of different colors as well. So it doesn't always have to be like the white selenite that people typically think of. That being said, Moroccan quote unquote selenite is the least expensive and easiest to get. So

Iris:
Yeah,

Jillian:
definitely recommend

Iris:
I feel like

Jillian:
that.

Iris:
it's the most readily available for sure.

Jillian:
Yes, 100%. So we've got selenite. And selenite, because it is gypsum, it is a salt-based stone. So selenite is really fantastic for clearing other stones. It's actually one of the only stones that clears other stones, which is awesome. So ways that you can do that, this is actually still in its wrapper, but you can have like a selenite plate. I think on my website, I've got them in spheres, like spheres, in circles and in squares. but selenite plates are great because you can just like literally put the stone on it. If you are making a crystal grid, this is kind of a great way to like continuously clear is setting it on, like making a little grid or putting a crystal, setting it up initially on selenite already, because then it's just constantly clearing. What a lot of other people do was they will put it in bowls. This is my little example here. So a selenite bowl. Right? Because then again, your tumbles or whatever you decide to put in here is always clearing. So for those of you not seeing, I've got a little selenite bowl with some tumbles in it. So the tumbles are now just constantly being cleared, which is fantastic. So those are some easy ways to use selenite for clearing. And like, that's probably one of the easiest ways to do it. Like, I actually have one of these in my in my bedroom, but I just like have my little my little crystal bracelets, like all

Iris:
idea.

Jillian:
hanging on it. Right.

Iris:
Yeah.

Jillian:
So it's. They're always being cleared. And I just use it as like a little bracelet holder.

Iris:
Perfect.

Jillian:
Yeah, so

Iris:
Love it.

Jillian:
selenite is a really, really easy way to do it. I will also say one of the main ways that I generally do crystal clearing is actually with sound. And I will say this is probably one of the second easiest ways and also one of the safest ways. because some of the water cleansing doesn't work for all crystals. And we're gonna bring up a couple other ways that don't work for all crystals. So sound is really fantastic. I have here a sound bowl. This is actually a antique Tibetan sound bowl from Yale that I borrowed. I'm gonna play it, here we go. So sound is a really fantastic way to cleanse crystals. And I also like this because there's science behind it. So when you're creating sound, you are literally creating sound waves. And those waves that we are hearing, it's literally just sound waves. And as they move through matter, it vibrates. the matter that is around it. It's literally being created by vibration and sending those vibrations through the air particles and then through matter. So when you have your crystals, right, you are literally moving the molecules of the stones, very slightly, we can't really tell, but they are moving and as they then... settle, they are recalibrated back to neutral. And I think this is a really great way to think of cleansing. It's not always like we're getting rid of like the dullness necessarily, although 100% if they feel dull, that makes sense. But it's also there's like, we're just recalibrating it back to neutrality. We're just

Iris:
I

Jillian:
getting

Iris:
love that

Jillian:
it back

Iris:
visual

Jillian:
to...

Iris:
too.

Jillian:
right?

Iris:
Yeah.

Jillian:
So that's the thing is like we're just we're just resetting back to its own innate neutrality. That's it. And so I really love sound for that because it's actually physically happening. And you can do this a few different ways. If you have a sound bowl, don't do this necessarily with crystal bowls because they're more delicate, but you can literally put your crystals in the sound bowl, right? And then strike. And then the sound is literally vibrating the crystals as they're in it. But you can also just put the sound bowl next to the crystals or hold it next to the crystals and that's fine. And you don't need an antique Tibetan sound bowl to do this.

Iris:
Alright.

Jillian:
You can literally use a spoon and a pot. Doesn't have to, like, you can use tingsha.

Iris:
I love

Jillian:
Like,

Iris:
that.

Jillian:
you

Iris:
That's

Jillian:
can

Iris:
so

Jillian:
make

Iris:
true.

Jillian:
it, you can make it like beautifully ritualistic and like incorporate tools that have a lot of meaning imbued in them. And that's just gonna like heighten everything and make it even more palpable. But like, you don't necessarily need, yeah, exactly. sacred. I love that. But you don't need to necessarily go out and spend money to do it. You can take a spoon and a pot and bang them together safely. And that's going to create the sound that you, that's going to reset the crystals back to neutrality. So I love like for, for the crystals in my store, for instance, like I can't pick all of them up. Like there's too many on display. So I use Reiki, which we'll talk about in a second, and I use sound. And it's just so much easier. I just walk around with a sound bowl. I hold them next to each table. I strike a certain amount of times. Usually I let my intuition pick how many times. A lot of times it's like seven. But you know, however, like pick a number that feels really good to you or that feels really like ritualistic to you. But it's just so easy and. And it works for basically all the crystals because you're not exposing it to anything that's going to weaken the molecular bonds like water. So sound

Iris:
I also wanted

Jillian:
is

Iris:
to...

Jillian:
fantastic.

Iris:
Yeah, and going back to, again, our second episode, if you haven't listened to it, Jillian does a wonderful explanation, but

Jillian:
Thanks.

Iris:
essentially we're all, every single thing on this planet, microscopically is vibrating. We each have our own vibrations, and as Jillian explained just a few minutes ago, in our body, since we're not a stable thing like a crystal, our heart is vibrating at something

Jillian:
Mm-hmm.

Iris:
different versus our stomach versus, you know, our brain, constantly vibrating. You can look up the science online if, but to think of the crystal, each crystal is vibrating at its own vibration, right?

Jillian:
Mm-hmm.

Iris:
And

Jillian:
Yep,

Iris:
then

Jillian:
its

Iris:
people,

Jillian:
own dominant oscillary rate.

Iris:
exactly, thank you for

Jillian:
Yeah.

Iris:
having the technical term. So I'm like using my hands as like a visual, but then, you know, over time, whether it's they're surrounded by really negative energy or whatever it is. Maybe it just kind of either slows the vibe. We don't I don't know, but slows the the

Jillian:
It

Iris:
fire.

Jillian:
just gets, it gets off.

Iris:
Yeah,

Jillian:
It

Iris:
so

Jillian:
pulls

Iris:
it gets off

Jillian:
it from

Iris:
whether.

Jillian:
its natural state.

Iris:
Right, so whether that's it's vibrating slower, maybe, or however that is, think of the sound waves coming in, as Jillian said. So then you put any instrument, because Jillian explained this in that first or second episode. that our bodies will attune to the noise of that instrument. Other instruments will actually attune to the sound of that instrument.

Jillian:
Mm hmm.

Iris:
So

Jillian:
Yes,

Iris:
then you're.

Jillian:
it's the law. The law of entrainment

Iris:
entrainment.

Jillian:
is what it's called. Yes.

Iris:
So then you think this sound is basically this crystal starts to vibrate to match that sound, right? And then as Jillian explained it beautifully, it recalibrates the music stops and then it's able to recalibrate itself back to its original vibration. And the cool thing about when you're cleansing your crystals energetically, whether it's sound, smoke, whatever you're doing, if you're with the crystal while it's happening, you are also energetically cleansing yourself. So that's really gonna help recalibrate you and get you back to your center and where you feel more grounded, more at home. So it's a really beautiful process. I think also, or I think, I do, every time I'm doing my energetic cleansing of crystals, I end up doing the same with myself and I'll put the smoke around myself and say my own little mantra, because... we get out of calibration a lot more easily than crystals. So if you want, if you're very used to cleansing, do it for yourself. It doesn't necessarily need to be for the crystals. Maybe you have a ritual where every full moon you get out your incense or you go lay in the dirt, whatever works for you, do that because that's going to have such a profound effect on you. The crystals might not need it as often.

Jillian:
You're so wise, Iris.

Iris:
No.

Jillian:
So as we were talking about those sound waves, right? So this then brings me to another way to cleanse, which is what we started off this whole conversation on, which is, which is moonlight or, or sunlight. And so this is the same thing where instead of sound waves, it's light waves. So we have these natural, beautiful, spatial, literally spatial bodies. that are either producing or reflecting light. And those light waves are then passing through the crystal and maybe it's not as noticeable, right? But that's one of the reasons why crystals become warm in sunlight or we become warm in sunlight is literally the oscillary rate raises and that creates warmth, right? Because the molecules are moving more. That's why like when you're cold and you're like, oh gosh, and you're like rubbing your hands together, you're creating friction, you're creating heat, right? So it's the same thing with crystals. So some people do use sunlight or moonlight to harness the ritualistic process of that, but also because scientifically we have light waves that are shifting, I guess, recalibrating the oscillation of the molecules in the crystal. So that is another way to do it. I will have a big caveat to that in just a moment in terms of not all crystals should be placed in the sun. But I want to

Iris:
Real

Jillian:
first,

Iris:
quick, before

Jillian:
yeah.

Iris:
we move on from the sun.

Jillian:
Oh, I just, yeah, we still have one more, on

Iris:
Oh, go ahead.

Jillian:
our list we've got one more way to cleanse.

Iris:
Okay,

Jillian:
So

Iris:
I just

Jillian:
is that

Iris:
wanted

Jillian:
what you

Iris:
to

Jillian:
were

Iris:
talk

Jillian:
gonna say?

Iris:
about the sun real quick because

Jillian:
Ooh, do

Iris:
think

Jillian:
it.

Iris:
of it as you, right? Like say you're stuck indoors for months. You're stuck in an office that's not as bright or a bedroom that's not as bright and you never get to see sunlight. How sad. So just like we need sunlight, like how invigorating and just like Jillian was saying, when you're cold, just to even if you don't go outside, you go near a window and feel like I'm right now able to feel the sun. It just feels not only warm, but just, it's just this feeling. And I never thought of the sound or the light waves. I personally had never really thought of that. But if you, it feels good for you. Your crystals gonna like it. You go out in nature, bring a crystal with you. Like that's their home. So they wanna go to go to the beach. I usually bring crystals when I'm in the summertime and I go to the beach and like, I'm gonna bring these crystals and let them be in the sand. Like, I don't know. So do the

Jillian:
Yeah,

Iris:
same for your crystal.

Jillian:
Earth away.

Iris:
Help them, they're helping you. So help them to feel happy too.

Jillian:
Yeah, I know you're so funny. You're talking about the sun and I'm like, I like my crystals when I hide in a dark cave. But the every crystal is different.

Iris:
Yeah.

Jillian:
But I love your like, but there's but there's a thing like, right? I mean, there's something about it. The reason why we have rainbows is because of light refraction, right? I mean, if I was a crystal, I'd want to be in the sun reflecting rainbows everywhere. Um, so the last way that I want to talk about, and again, I'm sure there's probably some that we're missing, although we tried to be thorough, is energy cleansing. And this is one of the ways that I mentioned. So I personally use Reiki. If you, um, aren't trained in Reiki, that's totally fine because there's different energetic practices from every part of the world. Um, but this idea of energy cleansing, right? So Even if you don't have cellulite, if you don't have a pot and a spoon, if you are all alone with your crystals, if it is the new moon and there is no moon outside and there is no sun because it's night time, I don't know, you literally have none of these things. You can still cleanse your crystals with energetic intention. So that's

Iris:
million

Jillian:
that is always,

Iris:
percent.

Jillian:
always

Iris:
You

Jillian:
an option.

Iris:
are more powerful than you realize. It's like we have these tools, but really you are the power behind those tools. So if you don't have them, if you can't afford them, use your power because it's there, believe it or not, in every single one of us.

Jillian:
Believe it. Believe it.

Iris:
Believe in yourself. So yes. Go ahead.

Jillian:
So, oh, I was just gonna say, so yes, energy cleansing is always an option. And I won't get into specifics because every single tradition is different, right? In Reiki, there are specific symbols that are utilized for different purposes. But again, every single tradition is going to be completely different. So if there is one that you already feel connected to or that you have been trained in, then how can you use clearing spaces of people or clearing, sorry, the energy of people or clearing spaces, that same practice can be used for clearing crystals. It's just shifting the purpose and the intention. So you are

Iris:
I feel

Jillian:
powerful.

Iris:
like we should just touch on it just a smidge anyway. Like, so it's not so vague. I would just say like for myself personally, when I am cleansing crystals with the incense, I'm not just using the incense. I've never done that. I always just, again, I feel like I never really realized, intuitively knew that,

Jillian:
It was a conduit

Iris:
yeah.

Jillian:
of

Iris:
So

Jillian:
your...

Iris:
it's like, I'm doing that, but I'm always talking to the crystals as well. and I have this mantra that I say to the crystals and it's basically having them release any energy that isn't theirs into the ground, into the earth, and so using the power of your voice, your voice is so powerful. That in itself is a vibration.

Jillian:
It's also sound waves.

Iris:
Yes, it's

Jillian:
It's

Iris:
sound

Jillian:
your

Iris:
waves.

Jillian:
sound waves.

Iris:
You're unique. No one else has your voice. So you, you're using your powerfully unique, you're the only one in the universe that has this voice. Ha ha ha.

Jillian:
Literally, there's actually fun science. So the way that we actually recognize voices is every single person has a quote unquote fingerprint of overtones and undertones that are produced when we create sound with our vocal cords. So that and that's actually how we recognize voices. We don't even notice the overtones and undertones. but that's how we actually recognize them. So literally no one has your voice. It is completely unique, just like your fingerprints.

Iris:
So using the power of your once in a lifetime, literally, any lifetime, infinity,

Jillian:
a one in a trillion infinity. That's not a word,

Iris:
one in a trillion

Jillian:
but

Iris:
and infinity

Jillian:
one in a trillion.

Iris:
voice, that power to cleanse the crystals. So you don't need your smoke, you don't need your selenite, you can literally talk to the crystals and do it that way. So when we're talking about energetically cleansing, using a mantra, whatever. So that I just kind of wanted to go

Jillian:
Ooh,

Iris:
into it

Jillian:
mantras,

Iris:
a little bit,

Jillian:
I

Iris:
just

Jillian:
love

Iris:
to,

Jillian:
that. Yeah,

Iris:
yeah.

Jillian:
yeah. And yeah, and like, there's so many different traditions. Follow your intuition, or if you have training and that's what feels right for you, then amazing. But, you know, Iris just talks and like magic happens.

Iris:
Yeah

Jillian:
And the same happens for you,

Iris:
Exactly!

Jillian:
so.

Iris:
For you. It's not just me. Each and every one of us.

Jillian:
Yeah.

Iris:
Power of our voice.

Jillian:
All right.

Iris:
All right.

Jillian:
So that was a lot of detail and different ways to cleanse. Now, there's also this concept of cleansing versus charging. And I think differentiating that is can be really helpful because some people will use sunlight or moonlight to charge instead of cleanse or to do both at the same time. Right. So We've kind of, we've talked about cleansing, right? So the idea with charging is what we've spoken about, I think in numerous episodes here, it's really, it's setting your intention with a crystal, right? Using your divine innate will to co-create with a specific stone. And there's some stones that are really well known for holding and amplifying intentions like clear quartz. but all crystals hold intention. And so it's kind of the same thing, but so you can use a lot of these methods, right? The energy, instead of energy cleansing, you can, especially like we just talked about in our crystal grid episode, a couple episodes back, charging your crystal grid with your intention, whether that's through visualization or talking, whatever feels right to you. But a lot of people will also like to pair that with something, you know, with another tool, right? So like charging it in sunlight. I mean, can you imagine all of that magic that it's absorbing or charging things in moonlight? All of these are really great ways to ritualistically pair or imbue crystals with like added oomph to whatever. it is that you want to accomplish in partnership with that crystal.

Iris:
I also feel like for me, it's conversely. It's almost like, and here comes our different perspectives because I

Jillian:
I

Iris:
love

Jillian:
know,

Iris:
that

Jillian:
right?

Iris:
perspective, but my perspective is more each crystal, like Jillian's really well versed in explaining which each crystal itself does. Like we just talked about Vanadanite, right? And so for

Jillian:
Преобреп.

Iris:
me, when I think of Vanadanite, or sorry, of charging, I think of that oomph, that power of the crystal itself. So, vanatanaite, but making it feel more powerful, or citrine, and really bringing out the power of the citrine. So for me, it's more of a waking up of the crystal. Because

Jillian:
Ooh.

Iris:
the crystals have been grown, like they've grown over, what is it, billions of years? Jillian's more...

Jillian:
thousands to millions.

Iris:
thousands, millions, whatever, they're really old. They're a lot older than we are. So if you think about that, for me, the way I feel about it is that sometimes they go to sleep. They're tired, they've been around forever, just like a tree, a tree has been around for, you know, hundreds, some thousands of years. And so for them, time is a lot different than our perspective. So for me, when I'm charging crystals, it's awakening the crystal. Like, wake up, Crystal, it's time to do a little work. Like, you're there, but let's waken up your little, I even say heart, even though they obviously don't have a heart, like, waken your heart. Time to get up. So I think for me, that's from charging in that sense of like getting them to really work their magic in whatever their scope is already. And then that's why when we go back to our Crystal Gritting, same type thing. It's like doing a crystal cleanse of the crystals but then charging them to like wake up their little magic, send it out to the universe and work for us or with us not for us.

Jillian:
That's beautiful. I love that image. I'm gonna ponder about that now. I'm gonna think about that. So methods for charging are in some ways similar to cleansing, right? Like so intention, energy, Reiki. I know I use again Reiki not just to cleanse but also to charge all of the crystals that I offer to people, like, you know, just periodically and then also before I send them out. So that's something that I really love doing, right? Like speaking to the crystals and using Reiki to, yeah, I guess I just didn't really think about that, to like wake them up and be like, hey, you're going to these people. Like, let's, I can't, like I'm excited to see the things that you co-create. And like, so yeah, so use energy and Reiki and then people also will use sunlight or moonlight. So all of those are really great ways to,

Iris:
Reignite.

Jillian:
reignite.

Iris:
I'm sorry.

Jillian:
So I do want to then move on to the caveats. I don't have caveats the right word, but the like, more the warning label, shall we say, right? Not like necessarily like scary warnings, but just not all ways or methods of cleansing and charging work for all stones, because not all stones are made up of the same type of minerals, and different minerals will react different ways to salt or to water or to sunlight. So that is something that you really do want to be aware of if you want to utilize any of these methods. So looking up if a stone is sensitive to water is probably like a good first check if you really want to use the water cleansing method. A good rule of thumb is the Mohs hardness scale. So if it is seven and above on the Mohs hardness scale, then it is most likely going to be hard enough to not dissolve in water. And by dissolve, I don't mean necessarily it's gonna disappear, but water, if it's softer than that, over time, water could affect the molecular bonds, right? So like calcite, is totally fine to put in water for like five to 10 minutes. It's fine. But if you leave it there for long periods of time, it'll start to soften and dissolve. You don't want that. Same thing with selenite, right? Selenite, like a little bit might be okay. Generally, it's best to avoid it. You don't want to leave selenite or salt-based crystals in humid rooms, for instance. So you just really want to check

Iris:
I was humid,

Jillian:
the sense of

Iris:
by the way.

Jillian:
humid. Oh yeah.

Iris:
So

Jillian:
Did

Iris:
like you

Jillian:
I?

Iris:
said, human in

Jillian:
Oh.

Iris:
human rooms, only

Jillian:
Humid.

Iris:
the alien ones.

Jillian:
Humid with a D. Damp. Damp rims. A kind of a good rule of thumb is ight. So if a crystal ends in the word ight, this is not always true, but if a crystal ends in the word ight, it is most likely going to be too soft for water. This is not always true. Shaddockite, yes, because

Iris:
Oh,

Jillian:
well,

Iris:
okay.

Jillian:
and it's also

Iris:
That

Jillian:
copper

Iris:
was just

Jillian:
based.

Iris:
a guess.

Jillian:
Yes, but like angelite, celestite. Vanad at night. Any of the aights, this again, this isn't always true, but it's kind of like a nice little rule of thumb, right? If it's an aight, it's probably softer on the Mozartness skill. But things like quartz should be fine. Barrels, the barrel family should be fine. Those are like aquamarine. Those are great for water, right? Wokmarine, emerald, that kind of thing. So just check before you start putting things in water what the most hardest skill is. And you can literally, that's like a super easy Google. The next one is photosensitivity. Generally, again, it's not always a rule of thumb, but if a crystal is translucent, it is most likely photosensitive. So that means like your fluorides, you don't want to leave in sunlight because it will fade. Citrine will fade in the sunlight. Smoky quartz can fade in the sunlight. Another

Iris:
I feel like

Jillian:
thing

Iris:
generally

Jillian:
you just

Iris:
if

Jillian:
want to check.

Iris:
it has color and it's translucent and you don't want the color to fade, then... And it's not like you're gonna, just like with water, it's not like if you put it in the sun for a little bit, take it back out, that's fine.

Jillian:
But if you leave it all day in bright sunlight, it will start to fade.

Iris:
Right. So

Jillian:
You

Iris:
it's

Jillian:
don't

Iris:
like

Jillian:
wanna

Iris:
just

Jillian:
do that.

Iris:
it's not like, oh, I have to keep it in the dark. Although there are some crystals where I recommend like Kunzite. Keep hide yours in the dark unless you're like playing with it. Vivianite. Vivianite is one that will turn. It's a beautiful alien green. So of course I love it. But if you have it in the sunlight, it'll end up turning eventually like black and it won't have that beautiful vibrant green. So.

Jillian:
Mm-hmm. Vanadonite is another one that is not translucent, but is actually photosensitive. It can turn from its brilliant red to a duller, like, orangey brown.

Iris:
Every time you say photo sensitive, I'm like, no paparazzi.

Jillian:
I'm

Iris:
Don't take

Jillian:
sensitive

Iris:
photos.

Jillian:
to photos. So again, this is not a thing that usually you can do a bit of a Google. This is actually going to be an entire section of my book of taking care of your crystals. So forthcoming in spring of 2024.

Iris:
Oh, that's so exciting!

Jillian:
So if you're

Iris:
You have

Jillian:
listening

Iris:
a date!

Jillian:
to this after that, I know. And my book will be out. It'll be called The Crystal Collector. It has a title,

Iris:
Eww!

Jillian:
even if it's not written yet. But just check again. If you aren't sure, then don't use that method.

Iris:
Right.

Jillian:
Right? That's,

Iris:
If you're not

Jillian:
yeah.

Iris:
able to take the time to like Google or whatever, then yeah, just forgo that method just in case.

Jillian:
Yeah. OK, so other ones that are water sensitive are copper-based stones or stones that have natural iron in them, such as pyrite, for instance. I mean, it's got the ite already. But if it has copper or iron, then they can oxidize in water. And you don't want that to happen either, because then it doesn't look as pretty. It's not good for the stone. It's not good for you. So. These are just like things to keep in mind, so which is why I generally just stay away from all those methods and I stick to sound and energy. So if you don't

Iris:
Keep

Jillian:
know,

Iris:
it easy.

Jillian:
just use a different method, it's fine.

Iris:
Yeah, or if it's super dusty like for me any quartz family I'm like with my amethyst cluster that is my great grandmother's like I'll put it under the sink and just scrub it with a scrub brush because it's fine.

Jillian:
Mmm,

Iris:
But

Jillian:
yes.

Iris:
you can use the little air compressor which Jillian would you like to show?

Jillian:
Oh, yeah. Yeah, so let's, I know. So let's, so yeah, so we'll move on to our next topic, which is physically cleaning your stones. Oh, I will say really quickly. So ways that are typically safe for all your stones are selenite, smoke, sound, energy, and maybe earth. But maybe not so much earth, but like kind of earth. Because then it gets dirty, and then you got to clean it physically too. So something to keep in mind. All right, so physically cleaning your stones. Water is fine for Mo's seven and up unless it has things in it that are going to oxidize. So you can always use that to physically clean, right? And some of the stones also like calcite, for instance, again, it's fine to have in water for short periods of time. You just don't wanna leave it in water. So water is a good way to physically clean a lot of stones, but not softer stones. I would say maybe like five and below, don't use water is a good rule of them. I would say like six and up should be fine. So yeah, so how else do you clean them? You can use dusters guys. Dusters

Iris:
Yeah,

Jillian:
work really well.

Iris:
they're fun too. So we're having a little good.

Jillian:
Now if they have lots of like geoding or it's a cluster that's really delicate and you're like, I don't trust myself to actually dust this thing. I have an example here, electronic dusters. So electronic dusters, they have like the little, it's like basically pressurized air. It's compressed gas and it has like a little nozzle and sometimes it comes with like a little long, looks like a coffee straw. It probably is a coffee straw that like sticks in it and it like blows air like. There you go.

Iris:
Yeah, there we go.

Jillian:
So that's the pressurized air is actually a really, really great way to physically dust your crystals. Now, that being said, pressurized air can add up quickly and it's not, you know, it's a lot of cans. It's not always like the best for the environment. So the other thing you can use is which I will try to find and link. I have one in the store. Our small. There's there's some small handheld vacuums that actually have a. have an opposite like toggle. So it blows air instead of sucks air. And that is another thing that you could use. So I'll try to find like a nice, like a good one and I'll link it in the show notes here. Cause I know I've gotten one at some point. So I'm gonna go and kick it around somewhere. So that's actually one that you can use. And that's just usually like I'd say their batteries or the one we have is rechargeable. So you just plug it

Iris:
And it's

Jillian:
in.

Iris:
probably less pressure because there are going to be some clusters that you shouldn't be putting in water, you know,

Jillian:
Yes.

Iris:
but you don't want to use the air compressor on because it might just blow off a part of the cluster with its oomph. So I would say be a little.

Jillian:
I haven't had a problem with that.

Iris:
Oh, good.

Jillian:
Yeah. Cause it's not like a tornado's worth of like air pressure. It's just

Iris:
Yeah.

Jillian:
like pew pew.

Iris:
Yeah, I guess that's true.

Jillian:
It's just for the dust.

Iris:
Okay, we're fine then. And then to prevent that, just put in in like those super clustering ones. I'm not thinking of courts. I'm thinking I'm like envisioning like a botryodial something. I don't even know what in my head,

Jillian:
Mmm,

Iris:
but

Jillian:
it

Iris:
like,

Jillian:
still works. It still works.

Iris:
it's fine. You've done it.

Jillian:
Yeah. Yeah,

Iris:
Okay.

Jillian:
it's fine

Iris:
Thanks.

Jillian:
Yeah

Iris:
Leave it to me to start down the rabbit hole of like,

Jillian:
I know.

Iris:
oh no, the poor crystals, I don't want to break them. Okay. Okay.

Jillian:
So far they've been fine. I've used them on plenty of softer copper stones and they've been like azure

Iris:
Oh,

Jillian:
and

Iris:
perfect.

Jillian:
they've been fine.

Iris:
Okay, cool.

Jillian:
Okay, so those are different ways to physically clean your stones. If you, what you mentioned before, if they're really dirty sometimes and it's hard enough on the Mohs scale, like quartz, sometimes yeah, a toothbrush and some water can really do the trick.

Iris:
Yeah, I've gotten some like a massive shipment of Namibian rose quartz that

Jillian:
Well, we have to clear, we've got to clean a lot of crystals a lot of times.

Iris:
Yeah,

Jillian:
Yeah.

Iris:
that was like super dirty where I'm like

Jillian:
Yeah.

Iris:
scrubbing. But yeah,

Jillian:
Yeah.

Iris:
typically you guys aren't going to have to do that. So we're

Jillian:
Yeah,

Iris:
good.

Jillian:
we do that for you most of the time. Okay, so we're almost towards the end of our episode. I do wanna talk a little bit about not necessarily cleansing stones, but which stones and formations are actually best for cleansing ourselves, like our own energy fields, and our sacred spaces, if we are creating a sacred space, as well as our... homes or offices or wherever you want to want to place crystals because I think that's another thing that people really want to that can be really helpful, right? If you if you already have crystals that are geared towards cleansing in your space, then you probably have to do less clearing and cleansing yourself because you've got you've got a partner who's doing the work half the time anyways. So Um, the first one I'm going to bring up is of course, selenite. So the gypsum family, it's, I'll show it again. Looks like this. Sometimes you can get like giant towers that are like the size of your torso or like giant logs and you put them in your fake fireplace. That's another fun, another fun way to do it. Um, Ooh, yeah. So that's perfect

Iris:
I'm

Jillian:
for like, especially

Iris:
gonna

Jillian:
if

Iris:
go.

Jillian:
you're doing like ritual, creating sacred space, um, describe what you just showed.

Iris:
Oh, sorry. Yeah. I held up a selenite sword or knife or what's the other terms people use? This is a carb, obviously

Jillian:
stagger.

Iris:
carb dagger. That's the other one. But yeah, there's selenite comes because it is so malleable comes in so many different shapes. There's hearts, there's spheres,

Jillian:
Wands.

Iris:
there's

Jillian:
Wands.

Iris:
I'm sorry. Wands.

Jillian:
Polished

Iris:
Oh, yeah,

Jillian:
wands.

Iris:
wands. There's so many cool carvings and skulls. So selenite you can find in whatever appeals to you

Jillian:
Mm-hmm.

Iris:
and then just have that.

Jillian:
So whether you just have it in your space or whether it's more of like a handheld tool that you are using to create sacred space, either way, selenite slash gypsum family are going to be probably the most easily accessible and easiest stones for clearing. Another thing that I do is you can get like little tiny ones that are polished or unpolished. And you just. I actually have them over the lintel of the door. So I have that at my store. So you can't even see it, but when people come in, they're literally passing through a little selenite barrier that

Iris:
Like a shower.

Jillian:
I've created. Yeah, they've got to like, their energy is cleared as they're walking, as they're walking in, or like setting it, if you've got a tower or a bigger piece, setting it by the front door, on the little entryway table, right? So it's just as people come in. it's automatically just being cleared before it even comes into your space. That's kind of a nice little easy, easy way to do it. Right. And then you just like check in every once in a while. So Selenite again, doesn't Selenite's a great example. It doesn't ever need to be cleared, but sometimes it can get a little bit dull or overworked. And so giving it a little bit of to charge. Right. Reawakening it, as Iris said, you know, That's all you really need to do for selenite. A couple other stones that are really great that are also for clearing your spaces are salt-based as well. Generally, it's the salt-based stones that you're looking for. One of them is halite. This is a great example of a beautiful halite cluster that at one point in time used to be pink, and I left it in the window and it faded. So now it's like barely pink. It's so soft.

Iris:
And that's Hey Light versus How Light. So

Jillian:
Yes.

Iris:
H-A-L-I-T-E, just

Jillian:
Yes.

Iris:
for those listening,

Jillian:
Yes.

Iris:
just in case they didn't hear correctly. Wow,

Jillian:
Is

Iris:
that's a

Jillian:
it

Iris:
biggie,

Jillian:
yes?

Iris:
but yeah, how funny it went right.

Jillian:
I know. I mean, it's like the softest amount of pink. It kind of see more on the back, but

Iris:
Oh yeah, yeah, okay.

Jillian:
yeah, this used to be like dark pink. So don't leave it in the sun, friends. It's another one that is not good in rooms that are moist, like the bathroom, because it starts to smell. It starts to disintegrate really quickly. It gets really soft. It also starts to smell fishy if it's in a moist room. So just make sure it's in a nice and dry room, but

Iris:
Because it's

Jillian:
it

Iris:
found,

Jillian:
is in like dried out lake beds, basically.

Iris:
yeah, same with the next one you're gonna say too.

Jillian:
Hank site.

Iris:
Oh, I love Hangsite. I love how Hangsite forms.

Jillian:
How does it

Iris:
Sorry,

Jillian:
form?

Iris:
go ahead. I haven't seen it in a long time, but I feel like it's almost like a diamond shape. It's like this, like this, from what I remember. I haven't had it in the shop in years. I had

Jillian:
Yeah,

Iris:
a personal one that I released,

Jillian:
I had a personal

Iris:
and now I'm

Jillian:
one

Iris:
just

Jillian:
that

Iris:
like.

Jillian:
I don't even know where it went.

Iris:
Let's Google. I need another one.

Jillian:
But basically,

Iris:
Anyway, continue.

Jillian:
yeah,

Iris:
Yeah.

Jillian:
there are salt-based stones that form from dried up lake beds or ocean beds or sea beds. So again, we have that natural purifying property of salt, but it's crystallized. Because if you actually look at salt underneath the microscope, it is a crystal. So... These are just kind of like salt cousins, but bigger. So, I mean, you can really see the, friends of you on YouTube, you can really see those like beautiful. Right? I know. So all of those are gonna be really fantastic for just naturally clearing your space at all times. So they're nice to have, yeah.

Iris:
Can we talk about an unsung hero in that department?

Jillian:
Yes, I have

Iris:
I feel

Jillian:
no idea

Iris:
like

Jillian:
what you're

Iris:
this

Jillian:
going to say.

Iris:
one, huh?

Jillian:
I have no idea what you're going to say.

Iris:
Yeah, I feel like this is one that not very many people know about, but it does cleanse the energy in space, which I believe it also forms at the bottom of lake beds. It is a stinky crystal, and it is a very vibrant crystal. Once I see it, you're like, oh my gosh, duh. No,

Jillian:
a

Iris:
no.

Jillian:
stinky besides besides halite

Iris:
smells like rotten eggs,

Jillian:
oh

Iris:
but it also comes,

Jillian:
oh sulfur

Iris:
yes. So

Jillian:
oh

Iris:
sulfur is also very good at cleansing the energy of people, of spaces, of yourself. And so it's one that I really recommend for people have sulfur quartz because it

Jillian:
Mm,

Iris:
doesn't stink.

Jillian:
it's

Iris:
So

Jillian:
less, it's less stinky.

Iris:
yeah, so sulfur when it's raw, it's a super vibrant neon yellow, but it stinks and

Jillian:
Yeah.

Iris:
it's crumbly.

Jillian:
Yeah.

Iris:
So I love sulfur quartz because that you get that neon yellow, you get all the properties, they're amplified by the quartz and then it's just, it's not stinky and it's more sturdy and hearty. But I always recommend that for people to take to work if they have a toxic work environment. To just, let's cleanse that energy. So that's like, I feel like the little unsung hero we always forget. I think because we don't see it very often,

Jillian:
Yeah, I think

Iris:
we

Jillian:
the

Iris:
kind

Jillian:
last

Iris:
of forget

Jillian:
time

Iris:
about

Jillian:
I had

Iris:
it.

Jillian:
it was, oh God, I mean, it must have been like 2019 or 2020 was the last time that I had. I had

Iris:
Yeah.

Jillian:
that on the lifestyle table. It's been

Iris:
So

Jillian:
a while.

Iris:
if you have one at home, I mean, it's also good for other things. Like I think it's a stone of personal empowerment, but I always recommend it for the energetic cleansing. But when it comes to formations, my little example here, it happens to be selenite, but it's the formation that I'm talking about, which is daggers, knives, as well as if you are looking for, oops, I didn't grab it, it's up here. a natural form of a crystal that's like a knife, which is laser formation. So both of these, this one's a small one, so I don't know, laser is when a crystal is thicker at the base, a singular point, single or wider at the base and then tapers towards the tip to be thinner. So that's a laser formation and then knife or dagger is a polished formation or a cutting energetic cords or karmic ties, which doesn't really apply, but they're crystals of protection, because I mean, look at them. So they're gonna be very protective energy. If you have like negative energy coming your way, you can kind of be like, let's cut that. Nope, it can go back to you and then just point it back to them. I'm just imagining people now being like in their office, like cut that energy and then send it back to you.

Jillian:
She's waving the dagger around in front of her is what's happening, for those of you who

Iris:
Watch

Jillian:
can't

Iris:
this

Jillian:
see.

Iris:
on YouTube, it'll give you a better visual. And then it literally does that. It cuts through negativity, allowing for a positive flow of life force energy. So it's going to really help with any negative vibes and clearing that. The other one that I have, because when it comes to cleansing crystals, not necessarily. I mean, I guess you could direct, I don't know. I'm thinking more of like energy cleansing energy of self and space than like crystal cleansing. I couldn't find a really good example, but druzy. Yeah, I guess this one's working. So it's a cute red and black hematite, druzy point. But druzy crystals, because of all their little points all over, they radiate a lot of positive energy. Just like you think of each of these little points. Yeah, exactly like little explosions of good energy. So druzy is good. And for that same reason, clusters are good. This is a Himalayan quartz cluster, but because you have all those points, it's just radiating the good energy. So like Jillian was saying, if you are surrounded by crystals, like in these. Ah!

Jillian:
This is my Himalayan.

Iris:
Here's this pinky, right? Is it a pink one?

Jillian:
Yeah,

Iris:
Cute,

Jillian:
yeah, I'm in Samadhi.

Iris:
yeah, so twinning. But if you have crystal clusters, they're gonna be really good about bringing in that positive energy and radiating positive energy. So because of that, you won't have to cleanse your crystals as often or yourself as often. Another good one is I would say most likely like a clear quartz sphere, but spheres, because they radiate their energy in all directions. So they're good for having good energy throughout your space.

Jillian:
Ugh, I'm like a selenite sphere.

Iris:
Yeah,

Jillian:
Yeah.

Iris:
I should have brought that one out. This is a lipidolite, but of course, because I'm all about lipidolite. Another good one for cleansing your own energy. It's a crystal of purification cleansing and healing is hydrothermal etched, which I don't have an example right now in front of me. I couldn't find one before.

Jillian:
Oh, I've got one.

Iris:
You got one.

Jillian:
I

Iris:
Okay.

Jillian:
mean, technically it's ice etched, but.

Iris:
Okay. different. Oh wait, I did find one. Oh yeah, towards the bottom looks like. This one is, I forgot, I found one that had a hole in it. I did

Jillian:
Mmm,

Iris:
bring one up. So

Jillian:
it's

Iris:
this

Jillian:
like

Iris:
has

Jillian:
a hagstone.

Iris:
been etched by water, but think of water. You can use water to cleanse crystals. So the hydrothermal etch crystals, they have etchings, carvings, like this one has a hole because of the water. Those are going to... Basically, they've been cleansed by the water, so they're gonna help you do the same. And then my last one is golden healer quartz. The sun's like kind of... It's

Jillian:
It's illuminating it, it looks

Iris:
a

Jillian:
beautiful.

Iris:
little bit, yeah. So golden healer quartz is when iron is included within the quartz. A lot of people call iron stained quartz, golden healers. Those are two separate things. It's when the iron is actually included in the crystal. It basically, think of it as the sunshine and it basically just clears through. It's very healing, but also clears through each of your chakras and just radiates that good energy through your body. So those are all...

Jillian:
Yeah, I think this was... I mean,

Iris:
It's a

Jillian:
we

Iris:
good

Jillian:
were loopy.

Iris:
one.

Jillian:
We were loopy as hell, but we

Iris:
Yeah,

Jillian:
were still

Iris:
this

Jillian:
very

Iris:
is true.

Jillian:
thorough. We were thorough and loopy

Iris:
We're

Jillian:
simultaneously.

Iris:
like, oh, this will be a fun short episode. Sorry

Jillian:
No,

Iris:
guys,

Jillian:
of course

Iris:
or

Jillian:
not.

Iris:
yay guys, hopefully you're

Jillian:
Yay!

Iris:
enjoying it.

Jillian:
Just details for everybody. Yeah, this is fun. So if you enjoyed this episode, please let us know. I would also really love to know... how you like to cleanse your crystals. So, you know, whether you DM us or tag us, right? Share stories and tag us and we can share yours of the ways that you like to cleanse your crystals. Like, let's, I'd love

Iris:
Let's

Jillian:
to

Iris:
see

Jillian:
see

Iris:
him.

Jillian:
that.

Iris:
Yes. Do that. Tag us. And I feel like if you're going to give us a compliment or like say how much you love the episode, put it on one of our posts so that other people see that haven't actually listened to our podcast yet because we've lately been getting DMs, which is so nice.

Jillian:
I mean, I appreciate it. The DMs are great because then we

Iris:
Yeah.

Jillian:
just share them in our stories too. I don't

Iris:
Yeah,

Jillian:
know, however

Iris:
that's true

Jillian:
you want

Iris:
too.

Jillian:
to compliment

Iris:
That's

Jillian:
us,

Iris:
a good,

Jillian:
I

Iris:
yeah.

Jillian:
will accept it and thank you. Ha ha

Iris:
We'll take it.

Jillian:
ha.

Iris:
But also if you could do so as a review on the podcast itself.

Jillian:
That

Iris:
So whatever

Jillian:
would be

Iris:
player

Jillian:
incredible.

Iris:
you're listening on, whether it's at your Apple podcasts, iTunes, your, I almost said Shopify, your Spotify, your

Jillian:
Yes.

Iris:
Pandora, whatever you're listening to, please rate us. And then we would love to hear any reviews.

Jillian:
It just helps us get seen and then more people listen to us, which is always nice. But we do really want to see how you how you cleanse your crystals, because especially I think a lot of you listening now, maybe you already have a method and maybe this gave you more ideas or or maybe you now are like, oh, I'm going to infuse this extra intentionality into it. How I'm just I'm just really curious. And I think it's really exciting when people get to share. how they each do something, because it just gives permission for other people to do what they like to do, right? So it just, we're just giving ourselves permission and celebrating all the different ways that we get to use our crystals.

Iris:
Exactly, because just as each of us are unique, the ways in which we cleanse crystals will be unique. And just because I don't use moonlight doesn't mean everyone else shouldn't. Like, by all means, we want to see it. I want to see how you lay

Jillian:
If

Iris:
out your

Jillian:
all

Iris:
crystals.

Jillian:
of your crystals fit in a wheelbarrow, I would love to see that. I would

Iris:
Yes,

Jillian:
love

Iris:
please.

Jillian:
to see that.

Iris:
If you bring them all out in your yard, I want to see that. So please take photos, tag us, we'll share it. Give everyone a little smile for the day.

Jillian:
Yes. So thank you all. If you don't follow us on Instagram or Tweet, we have a TikTok, right?

Iris:
Oh yeah, we do have TikTok and we have TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, I think that's it.

Jillian:
Yeah,

Iris:
We're not on Twitter yet.

Jillian:
we're not on Twitter. Well, I mean, Twitter right now is kind of a dumpster fire, so I think we're

Iris:
Maybe

Jillian:
okay

Iris:
we'll

Jillian:
with that.

Iris:
just we're okay with

Jillian:
Anyways,

Iris:
not being on that.

Jillian:
we're okay with that. So anyways, we would love to connect with you there. And I hope that you enjoyed this informative yet

Iris:
Silly.

Jillian:
potentially

Iris:
Ha

Jillian:
loopy,

Iris:
ha ha.

Jillian:
silly. episode I know my I felt my caffeine kick in about like halfway through so

Iris:
So like

Jillian:
Ehh...

Iris:
I've been a little loopy for the past few days, so it's okay. But in any event, thank you for being here. Thank you for listening. We hope you had fun and we look forward to the next one.

Jillian:
Yes,

Iris:
We hope

Jillian:
we'll

Iris:
you

Jillian:
see

Iris:
are

Jillian:
you

Iris:
too.

Jillian:
all in a couple of weeks.

Iris:
All

Jillian:
Thanks

Iris:
right,

Jillian:
friends.

Iris:
have a beautiful day.